Sorry, that post never posted (the one above). I had this again last night, but actually just whilst playing. Was playing vids as per usual and I selected a efx video loop from the Media Player via midi and it crashed ! The screen froze and got the spinning wheel and a error box, but the box was blank, had force quit. When it reloaded, I was trying to get it to do it again. No matter how quick I changed the efx selection or applied ME effects, Couldn't get it to crash! Bizarre Keefy